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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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I make a contract to sell a Cellphone. From me to whoever wants it. The phone is in Cairo, the delivery is in Cairo. Somebody accepts it. All good until now.
The problem is the phone doesn't leave. The client wants it, the phone is there, and yet the contract does not complete.
I have to break the flow for one of my transports, make orders to come to Cairo to pick up the phone, deliver it, remove the new orders, rejoin the previous route.
Please redo the contracts to be easier to use. We want to just sell the phone and it's taking too much effort. Thanks.
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Vulpex Posts: 390
5/9/2017
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This reminds me - along with the how to grow and city and how to open a new planet guides, we could use with a contract guides - contracts do work but they are not always intuitive. (I've used virtually all of them at this point).
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FuriousGeorge Posts: 51
5/9/2017
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Maybe distribution centers could be used to facilitate those types of transactions so we won't have to use transports to do it? If the contract buyer's HQ is also in the city OR has a distribution center. but limit it to one contract per turn per distribution center?
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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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Vulpex: so are you saying I can do that already?
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Vulpex Posts: 390
5/9/2017
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Yes you can do it. But you need to deliver the phone to Cairo. Here is the thing iirc it doesn't simply transfer the phones from one corp to another - you have to go with a transport to Cairo to pick them up. They don't "just" change hands. I forget if it was the seller or the buyer but iirc without the materials being actually picked up the contract does not complete.
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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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Vulpex, my man, did you actually read my post?
Disclaimer: I don't want you to feel pressured to read my post or responding to it, but if you feel like helping please try to understand the problem first. Don't be like others.
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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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"Maybe distribution centers could be used to facilitate those types of transactions so we won't have to use transports to do it? If the contract buyer's HQ is also in the city OR has a distribution center. but limit it to one contract per turn per distribution center?"
Why would we need a distribution center to change the owner of a cellphone?
The problem is simple: I have a phone, I want to sell it. The buyer wants to buy it. We make a contract, we both accept it. All that is left to be done is the cellphone to change the owner. That is all.
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Doctor Dread Administrator Posts: 1478
5/9/2017
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There's two ways to move product on contract. One is by the stack itself, you pick from a list of your existing piles of product it just changes ownership once you accept the contract. The other is where you pick a product type and a delivery schedule like 500 every 10 turns at an amount that can be hard set or based on a cities demand. The second way is more for continuous delivery to supply a factory. That second way has t be set through your Transfer Order where you can "Use Contract". The changing of hands happens as the product is dumped at location, the contract is keeping track of whether you are doing your deliveries in the correct amount and on time.
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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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For whom it may concern, the above post is an unmodified quote, a perfectly respectfully asked question about the absurdity of the said quote, then the summary of the problem for who doesn't feel like reading the detailed description of the problem in the original post. Nobody was supposed to be hurt in the process of reading it. However, nobody is perfect, so if you get hurt in the process of reading it, please quit reading and get help.
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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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Yes Doctor Dread, I am aware of the situation, I explained it in my original post.
I'll explain it for you again, I don't mind: when you process the turn you read the contract, right? If the product, the object of the contract, is available at the location of delivery please just change the owner. I don't need to hire a limo to deliver the product, the product is right there where it supposed to be, you just need to change the owner.
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Vulpex Posts: 390
5/9/2017
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badmaw wrote:
Vulpex, my man, did you actually read my post?
Disclaimer: I don't want you to feel pressured to read my post or responding to it, but if you feel like helping please try to understand the problem first. Don't be like others.
Maybe I got confused.
I had the impression that you had to pickup the contract which you yourself made. But it really should be the buyer who does the pickup of the contract that's probably what threw me off.
I understand that you would like the goods to just change hands without anyone needing to pick them up and that makes sense too especially when it's a direct sale of a pile of stuff. (If the buyer wants to move it afterwards they can do it anyhow).
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Doctor Dread Administrator Posts: 1478
5/9/2017
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badmaw wrote:
Yes Doctor Dread, I am aware of the situation, I explained it in my original post.
I'll explain it for you again, I don't mind: when you process the turn you read the contract, right? If the product, the object of the contract, is available at the location of delivery please just change the owner. I don't need to hire a limo to deliver the product, the product is right there where it supposed to be, you just need to change the owner.
I see what you're saying but its not so straightforward to code it even if it looks a lot like what exists already. I have to have a unit using a transfer order to coordinate with the contract itself right now if its an ongoing contract. To have you simply click a button somewhere (maybe on the product stack itself, with a list of contracts to choose from) to make the delivery happen because its on the location already will take some work. Add it to the big list of small things =)
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badmaw Posts: 80
5/9/2017
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Sure, whenever it comes its turn.
With the risk of upsetting the helping police, I don't know why you linked the contract to the unit. A contract needs two parties (the seller and the buyer), a list of items and a location. How the items get to the location is not the contract's business.All you need to process a contract is to check if the seller has the items. No transport involved.
No, I don't know it all just because I put together a few words. That's how we learn: we say each other things. I know a few things (what you think is all) because I listened. <= This is not for you, doc.
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