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What about repairs?

I was saying that it doesn't matter if the remaining time gets cut or not, it't too long anyway.

A solution would be to store the time of start, not the time of finish, so when an interval gets shorter with the upgrade then we get the shorter period.

Ok here is my question.

How are we supposed to keep track of a company fate and namechanges?

To some extent the question has to do with the basic premise of what is intended by the namechange.

A bit of background:

When searching for a specific company the tools which we are provided with favour looking to corps by name or alternatively by name of the player. However both of these can be changed at will for no cost.

So.. it's really easy for someone to do hit and runs and then change their names... Now if the goal of the name changes is to provide anonymity for hit and run attacks, ok fair enough but is it really?

It has kinda nasty after effects. I recently decided to retaliate against a corp which had destroyed some of my key assets.

So I looked up the name on the list of corps - not there, Neither was the player name.

So... I looked around for corps of the same level and found one which had the same sort of units, unit names etc.

I went after that corp and essentially flattened it's military power. An expensive proposition by the way, war is really expensive.

Turns out ... in spite of being closely similar they were two different corps, the original corp had been disbanded completely ...

Ooopsie.

So... to the basic question. How is it we are supposed to keep track of corps? Shouldn't there be a simple way of doing this?

"Volatile prices is what makes production and trading interesting"

That is true but not for everybody and with proper tools and not quite all the time. So the prices absolutely should not be static but I don't wanna spend two hours today to make the perfect routes and quantities and tomorrow when I look at them they all lose money.

"How many turns it takes is put in when you add it to the list and doesn't change."

You found the problem. You don't need to save that number, it's a simple difference between the start round and the current round.

"Also if I calculate a new correct turn time as it comes up it makes it hard to make custom construction times like 1 turn when you're in the tutorial, because it would always get overwritten."

You don't "solve" an issue breaking things around until the issue is no more. If you want something special for the tutorial then make something special for it and let the right things be right.

One other thing is sorting. When you click to sort by power it first sorts lowest to highest. I think highest to lowest would be the most used so perhaps that should be the way it sorts first.

Yeah, the level of spam is incredible.

There's a lot to talk about this and you are more right because you actually have done it. I have in my mind for years an economy game and I'm every day closer to finally start writing it, but it's a little bit different and real time, not turn based.

Heyo - seems that any attempt to initiate the construction of any unit results in - yes you guessed it... the black hole of death.

If I go to any shipyard or base, immediately after selecting a unit type the black hole of death appears oh woe....

Maybe there's something escaping me but turn based is exactly tick based with a tick of 10 minutes long.

The movement is the same, you have 20x20 squares or something like that and the other game has 1920x1080 px or 20x20x20 parsecs, it doesn't matter.
You can warp your ships the same like they do too, or they can show their ships where them are at every tick same as you.
You don't have to chase anything, every ship has its coordinates and if two of them are in visual range they are in the same place just like in your game they are on the same square and them can engage.

The turn flip doesn't have to happen when I want to see the page. There's no reason to delay the calculations 10 minutes. You can do the calculations in real time, distributed over the 10 minutes, and when the time comes you just show the stuff.

Also because you are a database guy you know that with a database you do three things: put data in, process data, read data.

What we as players do in the game is your input data. You save all our commands: when I order a plant, when I buy the water, when I dump the polymers etc.

The processing is the turn flip. You start to do it when we already needed it. Don't. Process it on the spot if it can be processed or just save the user input and process the data with another worker.

Reading data happens when we ask for pages. Don't make this data when I request it.
Make it in the 10 minutes, and when the time comes just show it to me.

Make two tables, one for input to write in it the user input and one for output to read from it when I wanna know where is my water at.

1. User input: just like you are doing now. Write all the data players send you with the turn ID.
2. Next turn: Process the data as you do now in the turn flip, but do it as soon as is available, don't wait 10 minutes.

Make all the things you want players to see: money, stock, plants, transports, demands, damages, you know them. You already make this, so you know what to do, just do it as soon as you can and save it in the read table, let the input table handle the input. Save it with the id of the next turn so you can read it when the time comes.

When I request a page, any page, you just read it from the read table where is in the form for presenting. Just select the data marked with the current turn, made a little earlier before the current turn.

This is important: you don't need to make joins and anything expensive in terms of time. Disk space is cheap. Just read the data, send it to the browser. The joins and all the processing was done at the processing time, at the previous turn.
Now the users just want to see the data, show it to them. Disk space is cheap, users' patience is expensive.

Thank you for reading. If you have questions, by all means ask them. I'm here all week .

I can't post there anymore, I really don't know what's with all these limits.

I posted enough for you to understand why I need the changes. The game is too slow for me and unbalanced. But my reasons doesn't matter, you don't need to agree with them.

Just tell me how the changes affects you or the game negatively and I drop it.

Let's say we don't have logistic limits. I can have a distribution center in every city and instead on changing routes every single day for an hour I make 200 transports and set each one to get to a city and forget about them.

How that affects you.

Zip555 wrote:

Strategic Orbits
Can defenses and ground units be put in them? If only ships then that will make defenses almost useless. If you want to defend 4 places on a planet you have to build 4 sets of defense, a singe fleet in an Orbit will do the job much more efficiently
edited by Zip555 on 5/7/2017

My understanding is that the strategic orbits even with the starbase, do not defend the planetary surface only attack. Therefore putting defenses on the starbase (e.g. those missiles or railguns) will help to defend against any attacks to the starbase, but would have no impact at all planetside as defenses cannot attack.
edited by Vulpex on 5/7/2017

I have like a half of a billion cash and the company is worth like 1 billion.

I think I need to make enough to support the military. I don't know how much is this but now, as I understand more and more of this game, it probably doesn't matter. Because alone I will never have enough military power to protect myself. So I'll make some alliances and get used to idea that I'll never be completely safe.

My problem was that I had the wrong premises. Of course things had no sense. Now that I understand the premises of the game, I start to understand why some things are this way. I won't necessary like the game more but at least now I don't want to "improve" it anymore. Which is a big win for you, I guess I was very annoying.

I noticed a discrepancy and was wondering about it.

When I look at the more info on an individual unit - I see the damage that unit does to everything up to and including a shipyard.

When I look at the more info on a group or a fleet - I see the damage that unit does to everything including the shipyard but then I get extra information on the damage the group or fleet does to structures.

I guess my question is - why don't we see the damage individual units do to structures?

In the assets page > overview, we have the list of structures, then military grouped by type, then the products. This is perfect.

Well, inside these groups can we have an order, more precisely the alphabetical order?

Thank you for your time.