5/21/2017
Topic:
Related to the Moon Charter - Reparations
Vulpex
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Reparations for the war on the moon have been agreed upon as follows:
1 ACP (structure) delivered to the location of their choice to Aristocratech (Delivered)
1 ACP (structure) delivered to the location of their choice to Business is Business (Pending contract from Business is Business - check your in game messages!)
24 hours for final comments - at that stage this will be considered approved. |
5/21/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Defenses
Vulpex
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This subject still clearly needs further discussion.
It will be further developed.
My personal take - all lawful holders of Research Facilities in the moon should be jointly responsible for the defence of the moon. I would not be comfortable leaving the defence of the moon to a single corporation not only because that gives a lot of power to a single person but also because a single corp will struggle to raise the military might to stop a concerted attack on the moon.
Further discussion needed - lets hear what you all think. |
5/21/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Research Centers
Vulpex
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Regarding this topic:
It has been agreed that all rulers of Earth (including the Moon) may have research facilities on the Moon. When a ruler changes on earth, the research on the moon must stop with the corp in question having the option of either salvaging the structure or setting production to 0. As a courtesy they may complete the production of a tier 1 artifact.
It has been further agreed that research facilities on the moon will be capped at lvl 5.
All signatories to the moon charter will enforce this rule. All the research stations which do not comply with this requirement will be asked to leave. Those which do not leave will be forcibly removed.
24 hours for final comments - at that stage this will be considered approved. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Research Centers
Vulpex
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It is a good idea to give the manager of Lewis the power to change the level cap. I agree with this. (NB - the manager of Lewis is the Mayor of Lewis or is there a difference?) |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Selling Structures
Vulpex
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There is a fair amount of support for it - selling structures as is.
It is particularly relevant for research centers but not only those. It makes retooling economies a bit easier as a choice if you can at least try to sell your structures for a better deal than the salvage price, and for some that would be quite useful.
It also becomes a valuable tool in diplomacy - it gives a new option to an agreed withdrawal - rather than having to blow everything up or force a salvage assets could be sold (and stay in place.) |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Color-coded materials
Vulpex
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You know... I'm partly colourblind :p different shades of blue-green all look the same to me.
Having said that there are two different things here.
One is the original idea which I believe is to have individual players colour code their stuff.
Another is to have more extensive colour coding for stuff.
Right now icons are colour coded as follows:
Green - Products (i.e. stuff)
Blue - Production facilities
Yellow - Grunts (er.. I mean military)
In the products and production from my perspective it would make sense to colour code to differentiate between raw materials, components and final products (i.e. giving each of those a different coloured border)
It may also be useful to colour code Military units (which is partly the case due to the different colour of the groups) - Worth differentiating between starfleets and planetbound units and maybe split planetbound units into defensive structures (which would include bases and shipyards), air and land units and maybe split out logistics units (transports and freighters) which have no combat role.
Whatever you do don't ask me to come up with the colours though! |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Research Centers
Vulpex
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I can see how the city manager would do that though the pooling of points is a bit complicated. Like was mentioned elsewhere the opinion of the manager would be most welcome.
One other thing has been brought to my attention which is what to do in situations where the mayor of a city does not have the means or capacity to support a research station but someone else in his city does (often a very economically successful free account) could the mayor officially delegate his production to another corp from his own city?
I would only allow this within cities - i.e. a mayor should not be able to delegate to a corp which is based elsewhere on Earth or even outside of Earth. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Research Centers
Vulpex
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Agreed on both points - pooling of points to be at the discretion of the manager and you maintain your research facility until the results of the next election are in should you for whatever reason lose your position as mayor as a city. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
MAX MESSAGE ??
Vulpex
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What shooer is getting at is that trade and other issues can be discussed here on the forums.
I do think that counting of private messages towards the limit of in game posts is a bit harsh and has precluded me from taking certain actions but we need to work on it.
Alternatively if you want a lively discussion you can go to the discord server.
Be wise and careful with your words and you will be rewarded. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Principles
Vulpex
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A 24 hour warning will be given to everyone before any enforcement action. They will be presented with a number of options.
Lack of objection is to all intents representative of consensus in this case. Positive agreement is not needed - seeing the strong discussions on the other threads pertaining to the moon charter I am fairly confident that if there was a major concern with the principles they would have been expressed by this point. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
MAX MESSAGE ??
Vulpex
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Really? My limit never increased... |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Principles
Vulpex
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Yes this is correct - the intention is to have the buy in from major guilds, buy in from other guilds and independents are of course welcome but lets be honest - we are on the edge of civil war until this thing gets resolved (something that might not be obvious to many people) |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Guilds referred to as alliances
Vulpex
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In the contract system, if you setup a contract for your guild only it shows up as being referred to as My Alliance in the actual contracts list.
This can be confusing - minor point but you know I like to bring those up. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
MAX MESSAGE ??
Vulpex
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Its actually the private messages that kill my comms allocation - when I need to write to all nine producers of chemicals in NY as mayor for instance - blam. There goes my comms allocation. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Principles
Vulpex
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Fair enough.
I will now put up the charter for ratification.
You have 24 hours to obtain the ratification by 13 mayors.
If ratification does not take place, the negotiations will have failed and the charter will be null and void. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
The Moon Charter
Vulpex
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Article 1 – Goal of the Moon Charter
The goal of this charter is to establish the principles on how the artifact resources of the moon are to be used in for the benefit of the expansion of mankind.
In order to achieve this it is important that an agreement be reached on the use of the moon so as to –
- · Eliminate conflict over artifacts
- · Ensure artifacts are used for the benefit of mankind
- · Optimize the output of Artifacts from the moon
Article 2 – Ratification of the Charter
The charter has to be ratified by 13 of the 25 mayors of Earth to come into effect by turn 1400.
All corporations remaining on Lewis must be in compliance with the charter in particular with regards to the status of their research facilities by turn 1400.
If the charter has not been ratified by turn 1400 it will be considered null and void.
Article 3 – Manager of Lewis
The Mayor of Lewis will be appointed as the Manager of Lewis. He will be responsible to adjudicate in primary instance questions of arising from this charter. In particular he is empowered to:
- Revise the accepted levels of research facilities on Lewis.
- Adjudicate on any special arrangements for the pooling of research levels to bigger projects.
- Supervise and organize the defense of Lewis
- Take measures regarding the enforcement of this charter, being able to call on signatories for support.
Article 4 – Ownership of Research Facilities
The 25 Mayors of Earth and the Mayor of Lewis will be entitled to maintain a research facility on Lewis. The research facilities will be named in such a way as to begin by the name of the city they represent.
A Mayor may delegate the maintenance of a research facility to another corporation headquartered in his own city if such an arrangement will be of greater benefit to the city.
If an incumbent mayor with an active research facility on Lewis loses an election he may finish the production of a tier 1 artifact before doing one of three things:
- Salvaging his research facility
- Setting production of the facility to 0
- Transferring ownership of the research facility to the newly elected mayor.
All other facilities will be considered unlawful. The Manager of Lewis will take action to either bring them into conformity or remove them from Lewis.
Article 5 – Management of Research Facilities
Research facilities will be capped to level 5.
Article 6 – Use of artifacts
The use of artifacts for any of the following effects is banned in the entire Sol system:
Geo Scorcher, Gaia Scorcher, Solar Reducer, Super Virus
Whoever uses such an artifact, or provides an artifact to another corporation that results in such a use forfeits his rights to maintain a research facility on Lewis.
Article 7 – Defense of Lewis
The responsibility for the defense of Lewis rests on the Manager of Lewis.
He may call on signatories of this charter for support in the defense or for the enforcement of this charter.
The city manager will establish the allowed forces on the moon for the signatories of this charter, either as a set of units or as total force strength, or as a combination of the two.
The forces of the city manager will be set to defend the entire population of Lewis, except for commandos.
The forces of other signatories should not be defending unless explicitly requested to do so by the Manager of Lewis.
Article 8 - Transitional Provisions
All corporations which have research facilities on the moon must bring their research facilities into compliance with the charter by turn 1400. This can happen in the following ways:
- By holding the position of Mayor of a city
- By being appointed by the Mayor of their city to conduct research on behalf of their city.
- By salvaging their research facilities.
If ratified the charter becomes enforceable after turn 1400.
edited by Vulpex on 5/22/2017
edited by Vulpex on 5/22/2017
edited by Vulpex on 5/22/2017 |
5/22/2017
Topic:
The Moon Charter
Vulpex
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As Mayor of Chicago - I hereby ratify this charter on behalf of the people of Chicago. |
5/22/2017
Topic:
Required components not present at location
Vulpex
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Roads never show up in the inventory. They are like all services immediately sold. I mean its not as if you can put a road in a truck and send it off somewhere.
If you look under your corporation - accounting - set it to buy/sell you will see the sales of your roads. |
5/23/2017
Topic:
Moon Charter - Research Centers
Vulpex
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Grandor wrote:
i simple want some reseach for boost "my" city
Then you need to get the mayor of Rio (your city) to officially endorse you as researching for Rio.
However I point out that under no circumstances will you be allowed to have multiple research stations. You currently have two and one will have to be removed. |
5/23/2017
Topic:
In need of a DIFINITIVE answer on mult-accounting.
Vulpex
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My thoughts on alt accounts -
The game design does not support alt accounts terribly well. This becomes obvious when you see the effect that alt accounts can have on circumventing caps such as the logistics caps. It also turns the whole thing of knowing who you are facing as competition into a nightmare - coupled with the free name changing policy it's becomes incredibly difficult to keep track of things. Alt accounts will also be very disruptive when it comes to actual fighting.
More importantly though Alt accounts fundamentally change the nature of the game. I understand that the principle behind BotG is to have a game in which you can remain reasonably competitive without having to spend eight hours a day working on it. The start is always hectic but if in addition to be anywhere close to competitive having eight alt accounts becomes the norm - well the whole concept falls a bit flat.
On the other hand I do understand that enforcing and policing an alt accounts policy is one of the most annoying things to be done as a game admin. It really sucks (been there done that). |